First word on Guy Cohen, and trouble with Iain Lewington
Today's Adventure in the Biz opp Jungle:
'In which Charlie is bamboozled by clickbank
technology, hears a first word on Guy Cohen's
Flag Trader and listens to an angry grapevine's
view on Iain Lewington.'
Hi,
So, this is the news....
BONG.
Charlie Wright goes undercover to a dinner of
affiliate marketers....
BONG
...Discovers that loads of people are making
money from affiliate marketing.
BONG
....But doesn't have a bloomin' clue what they're
all on about.
DUH!
Yes, on Friday, I hung out with some hardcore
affiliate clickbank marketers at a lunch in London.
When I say 'hardcore' I mean it. They were selling
products they'd never seen or known anything
about. Literally finding the highest performers on
clickbank and flogging them hard into their lists,
other people's lists, and anywhere they could find.
And despite all moans and groans I hear about
clickbank being "old hat", these guys prove it's
actually alive and well. Here were home
entrepreneurs playing the system well.
So well, in fact, that I was baffled by their many
zillion different techniques.
The way most of these guys were speaking, it's all
about buying the latest list generation system, the
latest miracle google-beating software, or renting
enormous lists and spamming them. It didn't
matter how bad the product, just SELL IT FAST
before people catch on.
And when they do complain.... just move on!
They even have software that writes their emails
for them, so that they have maximum impact on
google.... even if it's gibberish to read. The key is
to wham as many people onto their affiliate sites
and sell them as much random stuff as possible.
"Er, I just write honestly about what I find, and
make sure I don't offer my readers rubbish," I said.
"And I don't buy lists or optimise my emails, I just
talk about stuff and Google picks it up."
They looked at me like I was mad, or lying,
I couldn't even understand half the technical
jargon they were on about.
Personally, I don't go in for the technical stuff. I'm
like a dinosaur. I believe if you find some good
products, and concentrate on a particular niche -
like diets, trading, betting, golf, forex, money - you
can find the customers you want the natural way.
That's by setting up a website, offering free
content in the form of short weekly emails, and
adding new bits of copy to the site each week...
article marketing... using free reports you get from
the public domain... classified ads in the
newspapers... and selling your own products (not
one you write but out-of-copyright e-books and
reports) into eBay and other people's lists.
Anyway, all fair play to them. It was good to see
people making affiliate marketing work. Even if it
made me feel like I was from the 1940s.
Each to their own I say!
Back to my old fashioned neck of the woods...
A first word on Guy Cohen
I don't know if I've covered Guy Cohen before,
except mentioning that he was behind 'Illuminati
Trader', which I reviewed on my site last year.
Anyway, I've not got hold of his latest 'Flag Trader
System' but luckily one of my forum users has. So
here's a first word on this new trading products.
"I've watched the Flag Trader CD's, they are well
presented and show how to trade stocks using
flag patterns. Flag pattern trading is nothing new
but what you're paying for is the software that
finds the flag patterns."
He continues:
" It will typically come up with 100 stocks (Guy
Cohen's figure not mine ) you then have to look at
the stock charts it has come up with and decide
for yourself which are the best patterns. The
course also shows some other hints and tips for
you making these decisions. I would say you
would need a decent size bank to start with as the
stock are often high priced and require a fairly
large stop."
Nice little summary. Thanks to Denny16 for that.
I'll keep an eye on this and try and get a copy from
Agora Lifestyles, who are promoting this right now.
A grapevine warning about Iain
Newington
Now, I'm not one for gossip and tittle-tattle....
Well, actually I am. I'm always listen to the Biz
Opp Jungle's many grapevines to see whose
reputation is taking a bashing.
In my view, you shouldn't go by everything you
read. But in some cases, there's no smoke without
fire.
With this in mind, I'd be careful getting involved
with anything involving a guy called Iain
Newington. Sources tell me that his behaviour with
refunds leaves a lot to be desired.
He used to run Abcaus Racing. The basic idea
was that you give him £300 to bet on your behalf.
But many people say that after serious losses, he
didn't return their £300. The same happened with
'Win Every Week' his next venture. And now he
has 'Betting System Reviews.'
I've scoured forum after forum looking for people
who have something good to say. But I haven't
found anything at all.
In fact, I have rarely seen such anger directed at a
tipster before, and I've come across some horrors
in my time. So I'd be very wary. He's probably
okay to his happy customers, but sounds like he's
annoyed a lot of people.
How to lose friends and alienate
people....
In the biz opp game, you can't ever let people feel
ripped off. Even if the customer is in the wrong,
you need to give them their subscription fee back
if they complain. You have to give refunds, play by
rules, and do the honourable thing.
In this case it looks like he's not doing so. At best,
he's very BAD at customer services.
He's garnered comments like...
"I was conned by this Iain Lewington bloke for 18
months and lost £4500. Thank goodness my wife
didn't find out."
And....
"I got a solicitor/lawyer involved but I think he
counts on the fact that too many people find it too
much hassle to get them involved so he just wears
people down with excuses, delays etc until they
give up so he can keep all the money"
Blimey. And so it goes on.
In the interests of fairness, if you've had a good
experience with this guy, let me know and I can
redress the balance. Or if you've had similar
experiences, drop me a line:
Charlie@bizoppjungle.com
I'll be back on Sunday with more news...
Later alligator
Charlie Wright
The Biz Opp Jungle
www.bizoppjungle.com